- Twitter Daily Digest for 2010-09-29 http://ff.im/-ri6sN #
- @ashuping glad I'm not the only one confused! in reply to ashuping #
- @ashuping thx. Our group was quite confused! in reply to ashuping #
- @hybridlib hello from lawrence 🙂 in reply to hybridlib #
- attending the #ebooksummit with a group of school & public librarians in lawrence ks at the NEKLS headquarters; lots of discussion already! #
- how many of my twitter friends are in on the #ebooksummit nice to be in the same "place" as you all! 🙂 #
- @hybridlib we have 15-20 upstairs; haven't had a chance to count. #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- @hybridlib excited esp since we have several school librarians joining us! #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- RT @nic221: Overdrive sales rep says iPad and Droid app for library ebooks will be released before Xmas. Looking forward to it. #ebooksummit #
- @mlibrarianus hello virtually 🙂 in reply to mlibrarianus #
- @mauradeedy abt time, right???? #ebooksummit in reply to mauradeedy #
- @kishizuka we have several school librarians + public librarians at our group site #ebooksummit in reply to kishizuka #
- @ashuping better stay awake; loong day ahead 🙂 in reply to ashuping #
- sad the #ebooksummit column in tweetdeck is slow to load; might have to change to the web interface :\ #
- @wizzyrea i have a feeling most pple don't have a clue on what DRM is; if they did, the numbers would be higher #ebooksummit in reply to wizzyrea #
- @micahvandegrift ditto that; what time is their presentation at? in reply to micahvandegrift #
- @Alliebrwneyez death by powerpoint so far; altho survey results interesting; had great group discussion during exhibt hall time #ebooksummit in reply to Alliebrwneyez #
- have a feeling attendance numbers are higher for #ebooksummit bc of all the group licenses; anyway to take a survey to get the grp counts? #
- @hybridlib or kindle buying #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- @hybridlib i'm a guilty kindle ebook purchaser; it's TOO easy #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- @librarianbyday looking forward to your session later today in the #ebooksummit in reply to librarianbyday #
- @mlibrarianus @wawoodworth at least you can half follow along on twitter in reply to mlibrarianus #
- @mlibrarianus @librarianbyday @hybridlib oh i don't own a kindle; i use the kindle app for my mac, my iphone and my ipad in reply to mlibrarianus #
- @hybridlib @mlibrarianus @librarianbyday right now only amazon, yes; i've heard rumblings of opendrm overdrive coming soon #ebooksummit #
- @technolibrary any luck yet? #ebooksummit in reply to technolibrary #
- @LizB same here; kurzweil unavailable yet #ebooksummit in reply to LizB #
- @mlibrarianus nope; #EBookSummit in reply to mlibrarianus #
- ditto that RT @gailkd: could someone tweet when he starts? that would be great. #ebooksummit #
- @hybridlib i've heard using old VHS cases to display a fake book for the resource so people walk up to the desk with it and ask #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- @librarianbyday @mlibrarianus @hybridlib my iPad is serving the same purpose — which is why lack of multitasking isn't bothering me in reply to librarianbyday #
- here we go for kurzweil! #ebooksummit #
- RT @joshuamneff: Relax, folks. There's bound to be some problems when the keynote speaker is broadcasting to the past from the Singularity. #
- @itsjustkate had to do the same here #ebooksummit in reply to itsjustkate #
- once again, thankful for twitter to backchannel during an online conference #ebooksummit lots of great conversation going on #
- history of technology — law of accelerating returns #ebooksummit #
- @awd you're not alone 🙁 #ebooksummit in reply to awd #
- love the virtual timeline of invention and history running behind kurzweil; awesome timeline! #ebooksummit #
- smartphone/pda processing power vs cooper's law of spectral efficiency vs moore's law graphs up on the screen #ebooksummit #
- RT @TAC_NISO Kurzweil-Only problem w/ tech speeding up, pple dont learn faster than prev Limited growth in brain cells #ebooksummit #
- @awd on a mac not a pc; will attempt later; not a big deal for our group at this moment. thanks for the info on the refresh #ebooksummit in reply to awd #
- RT @nic221 RT @clarehitchens: Kurzweil: our e-readers will fit n2 our eyeglasses but virtual image will be any size we want it #EBookSummit #
- @awd prob — i'd do it, but we have a group viewing — don't want to interrupt until the preso is over 🙂 in reply to awd #
- RT @islandlibrarian: Kurzweil predicts that ereaders will be incorporated into eyeglasses – http://bit.ly/bEALdO #ebooks #ebooksummit #
- @hybridlib definitely taking notes on his approach #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- @jill_hw thank you; had hard time reading the url #ebooksummit in reply to jill_hw #
- kurzweil powerpoint slides RT @jill_hw: http://bit.ly/cBTfiy for his ppt #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #EBookSummit – Blio looks interesting want to play some more with that http://www.blio.com/ #
- @Alliebrwneyez @jill_hw not working for me either #ebooksummit in reply to Alliebrwneyez #
- @jkennerly bad link 🙁 will repost when i find it…. in reply to jkennerly #
- RT @emilyw00: #ebooksummit no Apple or Android for Blio until November. #
- RT @technolibrary: National Academies Press has free books online. They also sell them in print. #ebooksummit #
- Correct Link! RT @jkennerly: @hbraum Correct link for Kurzweil's ppt slidedeck (be prepared…it's 40MB). http://bit.ly/aC0YTr #ebooksummit #
- RT @librarianbyday: RT @msauers: No, it is not my responsibility to preserve your business model. #ebooksummit #
- @jkennerly thx for the correct link #ebooksummit in reply to jkennerly #
- come 2 book temple & get some bks; brand of lib is books if we're not careful libs will become "library memorial" @ulotrichous #ebooksummit #
- RT @academicdave: On the bookless library: "the only dead trees are in the beams and furniture" http://bit.ly/bwH04f (via @atecadvise) #
- to whomever got @ulotrichous for #ebooksummit — thank you! he's blunt, hilarious, and spot on! #
- RT @spolanka Eli Neiberger We've been through this b4, we've survived. need to look at how other outmoded formats have survived #ebooksummit #
- RT @hybridlib: Libs shld rebrand: not book temples, but full of smart ppl who will help you find & use info in all its formats! #ebooksummit #
- Agreed! RT @technolibrary: Everyone should follow @ulotrichous cutting edge, so creative in his thinking about ebooks #
- qwerty keyboard will be around until we're typing with our brains -@ulotrichous #ebooksummit #
- RT @librarianbyday: RT @DigiLibraryBlog eBook Devices Cheat Sheet: A librarian reference tool http://ow.ly/2LMCu #ebooksummit #
- @wizzyrea that is sad but a change of the times 🙂 #ebooksummit in reply to wizzyrea #
- RT @technolibrary: Are e-books going to be long term or are they going to be like 8 tracks? #ebooksummit #
- owning a copy of media — going way of attitude toward grandma's plastic covered davenport? #ebooksummit #
- RT @mauradeedy: more cellphones than toliets. most humans will have persistent internet access in their pocket. #ebooksummit #
- RT @awd: Value of Library rooted in worth of "Local Copy" – Local Copy loses importance when transmission is as fast as local #ebooksummit #
- local circulating collection itself is a technology that has become outmoded by digital distribution and the web @ulotrichous #ebooksummit #
- RT @wizzyrea: RT @cindi: Digital copies – to transmit it is to duplicate it. YES! i wish more ppl understood that. #ebooksummit #
- RT @hybridlib: The 21st c library provides on-ramp to the world for its community! yes! thanks @ulotrichous #ebooksummit #
- RT @technolibrary: in 21st century, the Localness of an item isn't as important. #ebooksummit #
- @J_Nellie liberal memorial pic appeared as a bonus question in @ulotrichous's presentation 🙂 #
- RT @kytwins: If we look around our libs I think we will see that ppl use libraries for much more than just checking out books. #ebooksummit #
- just now figured out this is a overdrive presentation; ugh; now i know why many of the tweets are negative #ebooksummit #
- echoing @wizzyrea @brewinlibrarian the current overdirve software is CONFUSING, FRUSTRATING, and ANNOYING #ebooksummit #
- overdrive may be getting better; MAY BE, but all the format options are frustrating users & those trying to help users #ebooksummit #
- .@cindi enough of the beta mentioning– just get the software OUT! #ebooksummit #
- @bcshipps you're not alone in that sentiment; it was refreshing & makes sense #ebooksummit in reply to bcshipps #
- Raises hand!!! RT @wizzyrea: If it's not as easy 2 get an overdrive book as its 2 buy a kindle book, I'm not interested. #ebooksummit #
- frontline tech support from overdrive. what a concept. how good is it? anyone out there doing the beta testing #ebooksummit #
- @ulotrichous thank you for that presentation; hit that one out of the ballpark (appreciated the humor mixed in too) #
- not sruprised about that RT @bcshipps: Our libs don't promote OverDrive b/c it's too hard to use. #ebooksummit #
- @J_Nellie will explain later; too much to stay on top of in reply to J_Nellie #
- RT @bohyunkim Ebooks shld b available directly on e-readers wo needing 2 get content on desktop first. Reading on web browser=bad experience #
- LeAP (Library eBook Accessibility Program (LEAP) — bookshare; what's this? #ebooksummit #
- @LizB is your library using bookshare? how does it work? what's this "no cost" part? #ebooksummit in reply to LizB #
- RT @wizzyrea: I wish libraries could all band together and make our own, not for profit, service for ebooks. #ebooksummit #
- @micahvandegrift go do it — twapperkeeper? #ebooksummit in reply to micahvandegrift #
- thanks! RT @DigiLibraryBlog: @hbraum here's some info on LEAP via @resourceshelf http://ow.ly/2LNPt #
- @LizB thx! in reply to LizB #
- @mlibrarianus agreed; there's one person at our state library we're supposed to rec pple go to — but he's only one person in reply to mlibrarianus #
- RT @mattrweaver: #ebooksummit Comic. "Why DRM Doesn't work" http://ow.ly/2LNLE #
- .@micahvandegrift done: twapperkeeper archive of #ebooksummit tweets available here: http://bit.ly/ccy04e #
- @mutabilis was up for me? #ebooksummit in reply to mutabilis #
- RT @librarianbyday: want to understand DRM & ebook formats? read this post from @griffey http://bit.ly/bD08m4 #ebooksummit #
- our group is listening to "ebook "What ifs": Issues that impact scenario planning by @brewinlibrarian @librarianbyday @TheLiB #ebooksummit #
- @mlibrarianus good to know — thx! #ebookswhatif in reply to mlibrarianus #
- @TheLiB looking forward to it! #ebookswhatif #ebooksummit in reply to TheLiB #
- RT @TheLiB: The problems of copyright & "own" vs "access" models in libraries are core to our challenges with digital content. #ebooksummit #
- whatifs to be covered: access, ereaders, rights #ebookswhatif #ebooksummit #
- @wizzyrea what? i missed that screen…. #ebookwhatifs in reply to wizzyrea #
- RT @fbaerkir: #ebooksummit RE; Google books settlement and also e-book licenses. We're letting business interests write legislation #
- overheard at our group's lunch: what abt rural libs w rural patrons who don't have affordable, fast Internet access? (1of2) #ebooksummit #
- (2o2) how are they going to access/use the electronic content? #ebooksummit #
- @wizzyrea i bet it's in the slides — duh! will look later in reply to wizzyrea #
- @hybridlib what ifs — the hot trends track in reply to hybridlib #
- RT @dianajw: will libraries rent or own content in the ebook world? #ebooksummit #
- @dianajw which session are you in? #ebooksummit in reply to dianajw #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebookswhatif good point Bobbi and Sarah – space 1 computer that can only do 1 thing – won't fly Google Search Terminal' #
- RT @hybridlib What if libs turned into content brokers: assess comm needs, find best e-resources, & bargain w/pubs 4 access? #ebooksummit #
- @itsjustkate too true, yes #ebooksummit in reply to itsjustkate #
- @hybridlib how is that track? in reply to hybridlib #
- public access mandate w tvs will that be a place libs move into? for data/sharing/storing/borrowing digital media in the cloud? #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus #ebookswhatif $0 ereaders we may have to stop thinking of libs as local entities consolidate collaborate more #ebooksummit #
- RT @dianajw: publishers no longer value public libraries as avenue to promote materials #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebookswhatif $0 ereaders – how do you get staff up to speed on this sort of tech? #
- @web20classroom will it be archived? in reply to web20classroom #
- @web20classroom in an all-day e-summit on ebooks in libraries in reply to web20classroom #
- RT @wizzyrea: agree! @brewinlibrarian tax dollars shld not funnel directly into corporate coffers through libs library formats shld be open. #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebookswhatif training-need time to know content & technology-libs need heads up b4 public as we are expected to be lead #
- @web20classroom ok; thank you! in reply to web20classroom #
- @web20classroom great thank you! in reply to web20classroom #
- RT @NicoleJAM: RT @mattrweaver: #ebooksummit Here Come The Cheap E-Readers And Most of Them Will Be Junk http://ow.ly/2LRRz #
- do patrons care about DRM? or ease of use/access what matters to them? #ebooksummit #ebookswhatif #
- @hybridlib @eBookNoir for most of the libs I work w, their patrons still mostly come into library; many not using online still #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- @hybridlib @eBookNoir we need to do a better job of physically exhibiting those materials for all of those patrons #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- RT @islandlibrarian: YES!!! RT @wawoodworth RT @mattrweaver #ebooksummit libraries must realize their influence wi the market, and use it. #
- drm DOES make process more difficult; i don't want it either; BUT patrons don't know what DRM is/don't care; want easy to use #ebooksummit #
- if we want 2 make progress on moving past no DRM, we have to frame it in terms public/patrons understand; 140 char limit bad 🙁 #ebooksummit #
- @bohyunkim agreed — see my last tweet; unable to say it all in 140 chars #ebooksummit #ebookswhatif in reply to bohyunkim #
- @mauradeedy thx way too much good content flying by in reply to mauradeedy #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebookswhatif – troubleshooting over the phone is impossible w/all the different devices and OS out there #
- RT @GrandCentralLib: How're ads in eBooks different than ads in magazines? In the middle of romance novels? #ebookswhatif #ebooksummit #
- RT @r_anstett: Libraries loan out $200 art books, why not loan out $99 eReader devices? #ebooksummit #
- RT @hybridlib: @wawoodworth we *should* try to develop a universal format, IMHO http://bit.ly/cTg2Fv #
- @rlarocque seeing same here #ebooksummit in reply to rlarocque #
- @rlarocque delayed it looked like #ebooksummit in reply to rlarocque #
- @hybridlib looking forward to your tweets on this one; we're in ebooks and the library user experience #ebooksra #ebooksummit in reply to hybridlib #
- RT@walkingpaper it isn't just DRM that's the problem it's the terrible interfaces we're forcing on patrons& lack of content & #ebooksummit #
- @pollyalida @walkingpaper i think both definitely cause problems w the user experience; BUT compare to kindle format (uses DRM) & user exp in reply to pollyalida #
- call me impatient, but i want access to content thru interfaces that just work a la itunes store & kindle store, DRMed or not. #ebooksummit #
- all right, enough of my comments getting injected into the #ebooksummit conversation; stop thinking and blog later…. #
- renting books? cost? what about library's role? #ebooksummit #
- RT @gcaserotti: @griffey i find techies get mad & defensive, doesn't help giv front line libs talking points 2 help mediate the issue #
- RT @hybridlib: For those of us who love adventure gaming, the ebook experience will make more stories like the ones we love 🙂 #ebooksummit #
- interface(s) + format + device (eBook) vs. going to shelf to get a book #ebooksummit when will the eBook experience (#1) be as easy as #2 #
- @bcshipps going to have to check her blog out; hadn't heard of her before in reply to bcshipps #
- RT @mattrweaver: #ebooksummit library bypass strategy http://ow.ly/2LTY8 #
- @pollyalida sad i'm stuck inside; beautiful here too. enjoy it for all of us still in #ebooksummit in reply to pollyalida #
- @libraryladyjane cool! 🙂 #ebooksummit #twitter in reply to libraryladyjane #
- joan frye williams talk on NPR available here: http://bit.ly/cou5xd (scroll down to the libraries stoy) #ebooksummit #
- Libraries need to stop being grocery stores and more of a kitchen #ebooksummit –quote from joan frye williams #
- @hybridlib presenter just said joan said it in reply to hybridlib #
- @hybridlib even better — having the original notes (or almost) 🙂 in reply to hybridlib #
- here's another place where joan mentioned the grocery/kitchen quote, a few years ago: http://bit.ly/bJYjSC #ebooksummit thx @hybridlib #
- RT @Alliebrwneyez: #ebooksummit challenges of e-access: Publishers, DRM, risk, cost factors, resource sharing #
- @buffyjhamilton glad that's going well!! 🙂 in reply to buffyjhamilton #
- RT @dianajw: enhanced content i want is instant online book club discussion – when i finished "freedom' i wanted to chat abt it #ebooksummit #
- moving from orality to literacy to vizuality #ebooksummit #
- one media platform (same laws of media): TV/film/video/phone/podcasts/email/newspapers…. #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebooksummit all comes together – tv, film, video, phone, books, email, blogs, etc – one media platform- media convergence #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebooksummit the cloud – we are part of the cloud and we are in the cloud – sharing becomes the default #
- RT @nic221: K. Kelly: Copies are free. The only value is that which can't be copied. #ebooksummit #
- @dianajw i missed something — what's the context of that? #ebooksummit in reply to dianajw #
- @dianajw but what's it mean? book watching you back? what's that look like? mind wandered momentarily when he said that in reply to dianajw #
- RT @infoactivist: RT @serendipitina: how web is moving: pages to streams, pc to clouds, today to now, me to we, items to data #ebooksummit #
- RT @pollyalida: Washington Post: Libraries launch apps to sync with iPod generation http://wapo.st/ddejNM #
- @dianajw ah ok; thank you — knew i was missing something; just so much to take in ! have you enjoyed the summit? in reply to dianajw #
- @ranginui thx makes more sense now in reply to ranginui #
- learn how to learn new things;– K. Kelly #ebooksummit also unlearn & relearn #
- @technolibrary i bet it does; educationnation sounded awful 🙁 in reply to technolibrary #
- @pollyalida check out http://bit.ly/9eT44J for live blog; coworker @lybrarian has been liveblogging #ebooksummit in reply to pollyalida #
- RT @technolibrary: Lankes–are libraries "collection" or "connection" oriented #ebooksummit Love that! #
- @jeduran true that; too bad he couldn't emulate chris anderson when "free" came out last year haha in reply to jeduran #
- RT @scottchilders: Libraries are for connections? IMHO, Yes, connect to knowledge, connect to community, connect to others. #ebooksummit #
- disaggregation of content; explosion of data… #ebook summit #
- RT @gcaserotti: new librarianship as connecting management, not collection management @ebooksummit #
- catalogers joke: what's the MARC record look like for Google? has anyone even done that?? #ebooksummit #
- threat is perception on part of libs and their members that libs are about owned artifacts NOT ebooks/changing of books #ebooksummit #
- RT @gcaserotti: library members co-ownership with communities (YES!) #ebooksummit – not customers or patrons, but members from their POV #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebooksummit wooden books shelves for ebooks are as bad a stereotype is the card catalog to represent our online catalogs #
- @mlibrarianus don't mean to retweet everything you put — but it's all so good 🙂 and why retype when it's been said better already? 🙂 in reply to mlibrarianus #
- RT @dkouf: ebooks make Lankes cranky because they are not reaching potential. Ignoring possibilities of what ebooks could be #ebooksummit #
- comprehension hasn't changed while storage/production/transmission of information has #ebooksummit #
- interesting tweet to see while siting in on #ebooksummit RT @kylepace: How to use Facebook to read w friends…http://ow.ly/2LOIi #
- @mlibrarianus i know it just cracked me up 🙂 in reply to mlibrarianus #
- when you move to a digital world, traditional terminology becomes metaphoric #ebooksummit #
- @dianajw @wizzyrea ever looked into Google lit trips? in reply to dianajw #
- what more can we as librarians/those interested in learning do with eBooks #ebooksummit #
- @mlibrarianus deal 🙂 missed the twitter community — summit is reminding me of that! in reply to mlibrarianus #
- RT @kamtonnes: David Lankes: Static documents are turning into conversations. #ebooksummit #
- @dianajw not yet — but it's a step toward what you want 🙂 and would be even cooler if that were possible in reply to dianajw #
- the lankes closing keynote is making me seriously miss college days of discussion, esp during civ. homesick for college #
- RT @bcshipps: What is reading? Physical and cognitive decoding, comprehension, meaning, knowledge. @rdlankes #ebooksummit #
- RT @candachie: while part of reading is very isolating, the larger concept of reading is social. #ebooksummit #
- all of the media can be connected together & then aggregate it all #ebooksummit #
- RT @scottchilders: Recommendation systems is something I'd love to see explored more in libraries #ebooksummit #
- RT @awd: interrelations of content are individual – but patterns of individuality applied to a community allows predict/suggest #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebooksummit ebooks can take you other media – urls music, images, blogs, film #
- reading & authoring is merging; knowledge creation process #ebooksummit #
- RT @wizzyrea: we all lol'd: this looks like a book, quick! Put a LC class on it!! #ebooksummit #
- RT @wizzyrea: YES. Get away from publishers! Libraries hold the created knowledge of humanity. That's a lovely thought. #ebooksummit #
- our communities are building knowledge; is the library there, waiting to capture that knowledge? #ebooksummit #
- RT @bcshipps: Learning is both absorption and production, and librarians are vital to both. @rdlankes #ebooksummit #
- stop waiting for "them" to figure this out; this is our problem/opportunity; #ebooksummit #
- stop buying the kindle/nook/ereaders & be disappointed; stop whining about publishers #ebooksummit #
- we must build it: network infrastructure, platform (iOS/Android), Standards, Relation to authors/publishers, foundational data #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebooksummit – stop whining – we must build it – why isn't the library community building an ebook platform #
- focusing on conversations & learning, not reading; this is our opportunity & issue; think beyond artifacts & physical limits #ebooksummit #
- the future is bright for libraries & librarians, but only if we make it so #ebooksummit #
- RT @mlibrarianus: #ebooksummit stop consuming CREATE it – we have the standards – we have the relations with authors and publishers #
- or "if you build it, they will come?" RT @wizzyrea: I may need to channel bob the builder: Can we fix it? Yes we can!! #ebooksummit #
- ending #ebooksummit keynote speaker http://www.davidlankes.org was fantastic! #
- RT @awd: Most Innovate things to ever come out of libraries: Librarians #ebooksummit #
- libraries are in the mission of improving our communities through knowledge #ebooksummit if ebooks fit in that, do that. #
- RT @mauradeedy: innovators solve problems in a better way. @rdlankes #ebooksummit #
- RT @mauradeedy: our communities are hurting! this is our time to innovate. we are a participant in control! @rdlankes #ebooksummit #
- RT @NoloLibrary: RT @awd: Lankes Go slide – great #ebooksummit http://twitpic.com/2t5y0i #ebooksummit #
- thank you @rdlankes for an outstanding closing keynote to #ebooksummit our group applauded! #
- @bcshipps definitely agreed; lots to chew on #ebooksummit in reply to bcshipps #
- Thank you @LJSLJebookSummt for the great #ebooksummit really appreciated all the panels & presentations. So much to process! #
- @buffyjhamilton @pollyalida @librariane13 blush. You are all going to do great. If I can't come to the conf I can cheer from twitterland! in reply to buffyjhamilton #
- @pollyalida CiL next year??? in reply to pollyalida #
- RT @technolibrary: Have Library of Congress or ALA weighed in meaningfully with vendors about ebook formats?? #
- @pollyalida really hoping to — esp if at least one of the proposals i put in get accepted in reply to pollyalida #
- @wfryer mine seemed faster after the update; honestly, getting the ability for folders for the 4.0 update made it completely worth it in reply to wfryer #
- Considering Google Apps for Education? Read This http://j.mp/cz2NMd #
- @pollyalida silly you indeed 🙂 🙂 in reply to pollyalida #
- Watching part of the 10th inning–video of a red sox-Yankees brawl was just shown. I will never understand baseball. #
- @amylibrarian I didn't like it at all either. It wasn't the glee ive come to love – except maybe the last scene in reply to amylibrarian #
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